Talk:Tsuchigumo

Tsuchigumo vs. Gyuuki

I've never seen a case where a demons name has changed in a Japanese game... even when the names are clearly bad, once they're in a game they're stuck for time memorial.

Unless there is a direct name connection between Tsuchigumo and Gyuuki these are different devils. Gyuuki is Youjuu, and Tsuchigumo is Chirei apparently. Just because two devils look similar between games doesn't make them the same.

PS: I get really confused when I see devils called "Wilder" and stuff from the Atlus USA games. Is it possible to favor the traditional Japanese race names or put one or the other in parenthesis? The USA names are very wonky because most of the names don't translate into English naturally. I'd say the USA names should be in the parenthesis because they're so goofy... Youjuu (Wilder) for instance. That way at least you never switch conventions just because this game is newer (ie. localized) than some other one.　--Yksehtniycul 12:10, 25 June 2009 (UTC)　

That's been what I wanted to do since the beginning in order to keep things more logical, clean and user friendly. Because, while the Japanese demons never change, the English version has demons like Preta who regularly becomes Gaki and then changes back. I was also in favor of siding with the Japanese titles since Atlus USA has a bad habit of tacking the word "Shin Megami Tensei" on front of every game they release. You can see the whole argument about it on Talk:Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon. It gets kinda stupid at points, and Blue pretty much can't be reasoned with. The whole thing soured my opinion of the wiki, which I used to enjoy working on, and even somewhat soured my enjoyment of Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon, so I pretty much just said "fuck it" and haven't really been back since. I have noticed several of your edits and posts on talk pages and I think you're definitely moving on the right track of getting everything accurate and clean. If you wanted to try to run against Blue's policy, I've got your back because it would mean returning to the policies we had before. Otherwise, he's going to want to side with the English localization no matter what. SeventhEvening 16:19, 25 June 2009 (UTC)