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==Suicide==
 
What is with the obsession with Sumire commiting suicide on this page? First you've got "Even if Sumire actually committed suicide, she would just get over it after some time and keep on going" which is a complete assumption of an event that doesn't happen based on NOTHING and does not belong in a characters bio. 
 
What is with the obsession with Sumire commiting suicide on this page? First you've got "Even if Sumire actually committed suicide, she would just get over it after some time and keep on going" which is a complete assumption of an event that doesn't happen based on NOTHING and does not belong in a characters bio. 
   
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:::::Royal isn't past a year old. They wouldn't spoil the game like that. Remember it took them a year or a year and a half to acknowledge Lavenza's existence, guess Sumire's existence wouldn't be acknowledged for a long time. --[[User:Rex700|"This is the end."]] [[User talk:Rex700|"Ugh...Really?"]] 17:02, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Royal isn't past a year old. They wouldn't spoil the game like that. Remember it took them a year or a year and a half to acknowledge Lavenza's existence, guess Sumire's existence wouldn't be acknowledged for a long time. --[[User:Rex700|"This is the end."]] [[User talk:Rex700|"Ugh...Really?"]] 17:02, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::It's probably true that they're not planning on revealing Sumire any time soon, but I feel like the announcement for her birthday was still celebrating Sumire, even if they're not directly referring to her. [[User:NoIDontKnow|NoIDontKnow]] ([[User talk:NoIDontKnow|talk]]) 17:13, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::It's probably true that they're not planning on revealing Sumire any time soon, but I feel like the announcement for her birthday was still celebrating Sumire, even if they're not directly referring to her. [[User:NoIDontKnow|NoIDontKnow]] ([[User talk:NoIDontKnow|talk]]) 17:13, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
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Just a heads-up, the page will be renamed to Kasumi Yoshizawa - without the (Real) appended to it. We'll also make sure no broken redirects are left after the renaming. Also as per our spoiler policy, any spoiler tags related to Royal would be removed slowly but surely. '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 00:25, April 17, 2020 (UTC)

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Suicide

What is with the obsession with Sumire commiting suicide on this page? First you've got "Even if Sumire actually committed suicide, she would just get over it after some time and keep on going" which is a complete assumption of an event that doesn't happen based on NOTHING and does not belong in a characters bio. 

Then you have " This accumulated into Sumire nearly throwing herself into traffic by accident a month prior to the beginning of the the protagonist's journey, and she was only alive because of Kasumi sacrificing herself to protect her. If this was a suicide attempt, or she was merely trying to run away from Kasumi before close to being hit by the car was left ambiguous."

This paragraph says "thowing herself into traffic by accident" but then immediatly says it could possibly be a suicide attempt and its ambiguous, when it isn't at all. There is literally a video of the event with english subtitles linked on the page, there is no indication of suicide whatsoever. 

Louisadyne (talk) 13:13, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

It was an initial misconception, and I think that the footage can go both ways based on what Sumire told you on rank 6.--"This is the end." "Ugh...Really?" 14:51, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

Age of Death

On the topic of whether Kasumi is 14 or 15 at death.

Assuming that both Kasumi and Sumire were to turn 15 the month prior the events of P5, and Sumire was transformed to believe she's Kasumi on exactly her birthday, wouldn't Kasumi's death happen before that? Is there more information on when Kasumi passed away? NoIDontKnow (talk) 14:52, April 4, 2020 (UTC)

It's a month prior to April 9 and assumed to be before March 25. It's confusing, but I assume that's not Sumire's real birthday.--"This is the end." "Ugh...Really?" 16:38, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
I've been thinking about the possibility that if the writers really considered Kasumi to be 15 at death, they didn't really think about the twins' birthdays until later on. They chose March 25 to be Sumire and Kasumi's birthday, but then the idea that Kasumi herself was 15 wouldn't add up on accident. I feel like the characters' birthdays aren't intertwined with the canon, unless directly related to the story, like with Rumi. NoIDontKnow (talk) 16:23, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
No, I think it's to avoid spoilers, so they mark out that exact date. That very probably isn't her real birthday.--"This is the end." "Ugh...Really?" 16:38, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
Can you elaborate? I don't understand what you mean. Thank you. NoIDontKnow (talk) 16:41, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
Royal isn't past a year old. They wouldn't spoil the game like that. Remember it took them a year or a year and a half to acknowledge Lavenza's existence, guess Sumire's existence wouldn't be acknowledged for a long time. --"This is the end." "Ugh...Really?" 17:02, April 4, 2020 (UTC)
It's probably true that they're not planning on revealing Sumire any time soon, but I feel like the announcement for her birthday was still celebrating Sumire, even if they're not directly referring to her. NoIDontKnow (talk) 17:13, April 4, 2020 (UTC)

Renaming

Just a heads-up, the page will be renamed to Kasumi Yoshizawa - without the (Real) appended to it. We'll also make sure no broken redirects are left after the renaming. Also as per our spoiler policy, any spoiler tags related to Royal would be removed slowly but surely. BLUER一番 00:25, April 17, 2020 (UTC)