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Great Mara

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  • Hi Great Mara I was wondering is Shadow Teddie in Persona 4/Golden represented by the Moon Arcana or the Star Arcana?

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  • Alright. Fine. We all know this won't end well unless it's settled right.

    I know I'm not hearing you right, and I know you hate repeating yourself. So, to clarify, I'm going to do it for you.

    Great Mara wrote:
    Keep game sprites/models in the gallery unless there is no artwork of the demon at all.
    Great Mara wrote:
    Because the game models are either low poly, don't offer a complete view, or have visual effects that obscure them. And stop trying to make me repeat myself.

    I searched everywhere for the artwork of Seiten Taisei as he appears in Persona 5, and found nothing. I tried finding the best in-game model that met the requirements you put up.

    Before this, I figured that could work. But now, the only explanation I can come up with is that you're saying "No in-game models allowed. Ever." because of the requirements.

    To be frank, I think we need some help with this. Well, at least I do.

    Again, I understand why you're doing this. But I'm really doing my best here. I don't understand where you're coming from. Are you hinting that there actually is a Seiten Taisei official art? Because I can't find it anywhere.

    If this is gonna be a reoccuring issue, the best solution I can come up with is to have you discuss this with the other admins.

    Other than that? I give up.

    Go ahead and give me another 3 day ban for complaining why Hecate, AstarteAnat & Mercurius get a pass if need be. Because in the meantime, I need a break...

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  • Do you have the statement on hand about how Elizabeth feels weaker or much weaker without igor around or do you know anyone who has that statement or quote? Sorry to bother you about this

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  • Heya! Sorry to bother you, but I'm very new to this wiki so I wanted to make sure I had everything right before I went and did anything big ^^

    I was mostly wondering about adding infoboxes to demon/Persona pages - I've been referencing the wiki a lot while playing the P2 duology, and I've come across a handful of Persona pages that don't have the infobox on them. I wasn't sure if there was a reason they'd been left off (e.g., because they didn't appear in a significant number of titles), and I couldn't find anything in the Manual of Style that said they should or should not be on every page, so I figured it would be safest to just ask. If they should be on the pages and are just missing, I'd be happy to go around and add them!

    Additionally, I saw while looking at Tensen Nyannyan's page that the Demonbox template has parameters for mutations as well as awakening to/from another Persona. Should mutation info be shown under the mutation parameters rather than the awakening parameters, as they currently are on most pages? I know it sounds silly, but since those parameters seem to be recent additions and aren't mentioned in the documentation for the template, I wasn't certain.

    Thank you!

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    • They probably haven't been added yet. And yes, mutations would best be listed as mutations.

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    • Thank you for answering! One more thing about infobox images: for demons that have no artwork at all (e.g. some P2-exclusive demons like Seker and Taranis), should both the IS and EP images be used in the infobox, or only the IS one (which if I'm reading it correctly, would be the "earliest [design] in the series" as per MOS)? What should be done for sprite-only demons that have appeared in multiple earlier titles, such as Kinnara? And for demons that do have some artwork (e.g. Ameretat, which in her case is a single image from DemiKids), should sprites be omitted from the infobox entirely? From what I understand, sprites/models are only used in infoboxes where there is no alternative, but what I'm a bit confused about is what constitutes no alternative, and what determines whether or not an image should go in the box. Jack Frost, for example, has sprites from MIP and P2IS in his infobox, but Seiryu does not, and I was unable to tell which was correct solely from referencing the MOS - though my assumption is Seiryu.

      I apologize if I'm overcomplicating things, I've just been fussing over the MOS for a while and I don't want to make any mistakes ^^;;

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  • I believe I got confused when you said this. I took this screenshot riiiight before the game mentioned the transformation from Captain Kidd. Will this work for Seiten Taisei? If not, can you tell me what the issue is? Because I can't find the "artwork" for him anywhere.

    Seiten Taisei awakening

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    • Because the game models are either low poly, don't offer a complete view, or have visual effects that obscure them. And stop trying to make me repeat myself.

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    • High quality, complete view, no visual effects. Did I get that right?

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  • Actually why was it not possible to use an external image holder?

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    • Because it leads directly to link rot. Imgur doesn't hold posts forever and several wikis have lost references that way.

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  • Seiten Taisei awakening

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  • Why not the Persona 5 design?

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  • Now, I get it.

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  • As you can see in the Shadow Self pages for Persona 4 & 5, I put up this thing called a "reality self" in the Infobox referring to the characters they were based on. For example Suguru Kamoshida is the "reality self" of Asmodeus. Problem is that the Shadow Selves in Persona 2 & even Shadow Labrys use Personas. Can I not put their "reality selves" there because of that?

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