"My Godslayer will kill every last God and Demon out there!"
Dagda is a demon in the series.
- 1 History
- 2 Appearances
- 3 Profile
- 4 Stats
- 5 Quotes
- 6 Gallery
- 7 Trivia
History[edit | edit source]
The Dagda, also known as Aed, Cera, Easal or simply Dagda, is the supreme god in Celtic mythology and the current High King of the Tuatha Dé Danann. His name means "the good god," good as in good at everything, as opposed to morally good.
Dagda is said to be a god of the earth, knowledge, fertility, harvest, time and fate, as well as much more. Tales depict the Dagda as a figure of immense power. He is portrayed as being armed with a magical club. A wanderer mainly, he spends his time amongst the mortal of Ireland and Scotland, spreading joy and merriment as he passes from village to village.
Appearances[edit | edit source]
- Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse: Deity Race, Major Character, Boss (Bonds Route)
- Persona 2: Innocent Sin: Suit of Cups
- Persona 2: Eternal Punishment: Suit of Cups
- DemiKids Light / Dark Version: Good Type
- Devil Children Fire/Ice Book: Good Type
- : Playable Unit
Profile[edit | edit source]
Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse[edit | edit source]
Dagda largely reflects his characteristics depicted in Irish mythology, namely drawing on his association with Druidry, knowledge, strength, paternity and power over life and death.
In Apocalypse, Dagda's main philosophy centers on individuality and independence, as does his associated route in-game. He is openly scornful of all other paths represented in Apocalypse (Law, Chaos, the Divine Powers and Bonds) as he views them as maintaining the status quo, corrupted and weak due to their reliance on others. He also openly despises gods and other religious figures, and ultimately seeks to put an end to all of them, including himself. His goal (and route) centers on creating a new universe where humans are remade to be "true individuals," and gods such as himself are returned to their "true form" as aspects of the universe, freed from the physical forms imposed upon them by human observation.
Dagda first meets Nanashi in the underworld after Nanashi is killed. He offers to form a contract with Nanashi, whereby he will return Nanashi to life and revive him any subsequent time that he dies. He hints that together they could accomplish things, but leaves the rest of his plot vague for the time being. If Nanashi rejects Dagda's offer, it will result in an automatic Game Over.
If Nanashi agrees, Dagda returns Nanashi to life as his Godslayer and "puppet." Dagda then enters Nanashi’s broken smartphone, which he repairs and resides in for most of the game, only coming out to speak to others when necessary. In this way, he plays a similar role to that of Burroughs in Shin Megami Tensei IV.
Apocalypse typically depicts him as outwardly cold, distant and introverted. However, his actions and some of his dialogue give away his ultimately caring nature towards humans, especially Nanashi.
Despite his usually serious demeanor, Dagda is also depicted as quite playful and silly at times. In one of the VR challenge quests he assigns Nanashi, the Demonee-ho that Nanashi faces off against refers to Dagda as "Lord Dagda, the master of V-hee-R," and Dagda takes on the manner of speaking known to the Jack Frost-type demons of adding "hee" and "ho" onto their words. In the final challenge quest he creates for Nanashi, Dagda no longer makes the purpose of the quest about training Nanashi, and instead admits that he is giving Nanashi a distraction and just wants Nanashi to entertain him. There are also demon negotiation options where Nanashi can dance and sing with Dagda.
His paternal nature is especially emphasized in-game, specifically in relation to Nanashi. After Dagda forms his contract with Nanashi, who is an orphan child, Odin refers to Nanashi as Dagda's "scion." In addition, at the end of the Massacre Route, before Dagda leaves, he makes a point of telling Nanashi that even though Dagda will be physically gone, he will always be watching over Nanashi. Dagda also writes in the notes of one of the challenge quests he assigns Nanashi that Nanashi has grown so much that he has surpassed Dagda's expectations of him, expressing a fatherly pride for him.
Apocalypse represents Dagda’s power over life and death mainly through his ability to revive Nanashi (as well as take back the life he granted Nanashi if Nanashi chooses the Bonds route) and through his particular affinity for dead things. Once Nanashi becomes his Godslayer, he explains that Nanashi has become something neither dead nor alive, and expresses a certain kind of adoration and possessiveness for Nanashi because of this. In the DLC quest The Inverted Pyramid, Dagda expresses an affinity for the corpses and the roses that grow from them, and states that "whoever runs this place has good taste." Although this mostly relates to his affinity for dead things, it may also relate to his connection in Irish mythology with druidry.
Although Apocalypse does not explicitly reference any of the items typically associated with Dagda in Irish mythology, such as his cauldron (Coire Ansic), it does include a couple of recurring scenes that can trigger when Nanashi eats at any Hunter Association base, in which Dagda comments on the food and human eating. In one, he is particularly off-put (and potentially concerned) by the food that Nanashi eats, which may be a reference to Dagda's love of food in Irish mythology. In another, he makes a snide comment about human requirement for consistent sustenance and the inefficiency of it, which may be a reference to the Coire Ansic (his bottomless cauldron, providing someone exactly the amount of food they needed).
In-game, the DLC quests in which Nanashi can gather app points, stat items, and high-value items are created by Dagda and take place in Tir na Nog (the Celtic Otherworld). Although the other challenge quests assigned to Nanashi by Dagda take place in a VR realm of Dagda's creation that does not affect or exist in reality (as explained by Dagda), Nanashi's smartphone recognizes the location for these DLC quests as Tir na Nog, which may mean that Dagda has actually given Nanashi passage to the Celtic otherworld, as opposed to a VR recreation of it. This is further evidenced by the manner in which Nanashi is able to access and travel to these DLC quests matching the way characters were able to access and travel to Tír na nÓg in Celtic mythology.
Despite reiterating to Nanashi that he is Dagda's puppet and that his obedience is not optional, Dagda will only interfere to control Nanashi and force a certain action if Nanashi is about to directly go against an important part of Dagda's plan, and otherwise lets him do as he pleases. This can be seen when Hallelujah first joins Nanashi's party; Dagda warns Nanashi that Hallelujah is a spy for the Ashura-Kai and dislikes the idea of bringing him along, but doesn't force Nanashi to reject Hallelujah, and instead explicitly asks if bringing Hallelujah along is what Nanashi truly wants.
Once Nanashi reaches far enough in the Cosmic Egg, Dadga asks Nanashi what he will do with it. Nanashi can either choose to create Dagda's new universe (Massacre route) or destroy it (Bonds route).
Bonds[edit | edit source]
If Nanashi states that he will destroy the Cosmic Egg, Dagda chooses to take back the life he granted to Nanashi, telling him he can regret his decision after being on the brink of death once again. If Nanashi had been acting cruel to his friends during prior events of the story, Dagda will also forcibly dismiss all of Nanashi's demons (even the ones in stock) and force him to fight alone.
For the first few turns, Nanashi's life will drain away, and his demons sometimes won't listen to his commands. Dagda declares that he wants Nanashi to die as quick and painlessly as possible. Danu, however, saves Nanashi by creating a new Dagda using the new powers she gained from assimilating with Inanna's remnants, in order to sustain Nanashi's life; much to Dagda's horror and revulsion. The double announces his intentions to save mankind and Nanashi's life, intending to help him restore balance; even leaving Nanashi's free will as it makes him more powerful while requesting him to eliminate the original who he views as "single-minded" per his duty as a Godslayer. Dagda spites the new version, seeing him as a weakling dependent on others for everything and that is not how he wants to live as an individual; he then curses Nanashi for choosing to turn on him, believing that Nanashi has condemned himself to a lowly existence. Having grown tired of the defiance, he demands Nanashi to show him his resolve. Dagda fights Nanashi to the full extent of his abilities but is still defeated, admitting he knew that Nanashi would more likely choose this path and that he still ultimately got what he wanted through his defeat; all the while acknowledging Nanashi's progress and stating he is proud of him. He laments in his belief that gods, unlike humans, cannot change their fate and that they are destined to remain connected to humanity. He proclaims he is not truly dying, and disappears in the same light that gave birth to the new Dagda who then lends Nanashi his power for the final fight.
During the fight with YHVH, the new Dagda expresses awe at humanity's power of understanding. He realizes the key to defeating their final enemy and encourages Nanashi and his friends to take advantage. Giving Nanashi his power, he teams up with him to "drag him from that throne." When YHVH curses the party for defeating him, the new Dagda just rebukes him; saying the enemy's views disgusted him before joining Nanashi's friends in encouraging him to end it.
In the end, the new Dagda expresses admiration to Nanashi for finding his own path. Dagda restores Nanashi's humanity, deeming his life his own once again. He thanks Nanashi for carving out a path for both Gods and humanity alike. While admitting he does not disagree with his original self's cynical and misanthropic view, he is alive and reborn in addition to achieving new understanding because of Nanashi and confesses he feels blessed to have met him; he is now willing to accept compromise or his mother's advice and now strives to work with his mother to form a new future for both fairykind and mankind.
Massacre[edit | edit source]
If Nanashi chooses to create Dagda’s new universe using the Cosmic Egg, all of Nanashi’s partners will fight to the death against Nanashi.
Once Nanashi has killed Nozomi, thereby destroying Danu as well, Dagda is somewhat forlorn at the death of his mother, remarking that it was a shame that things had to end as they did. After defeating all of them, Dagda tells Nanashi that the souls of his friends will be used as the foundation for the new universe.
Prior to Nanashi's battle with Vishnu-Flynn, Krishna mistakes Dagda not reviving the souls of the Cosmic Egg to mean that Dagda may be siding with Krishna. However, after asking Dagda to join him once more, Dagda turns him down for the second time. Prior to this point in-game, Dagda has always referred to the new universe as his universe, and has always referred to himself and Nanashi as acting separately. During this conversation with Krishna, however, Dagda refers to the decision of creating a new universe as both his and Nanashi's, and claims the new universe will belong to both of them, for the first time indicating that they are working together. Following this, in one of the recurring lines that Dagda can say to Nanashi while Nanashi is traversing the world, he specifically calls the new universe Nanashi's, as opposed to his own.
After defeating Vishnu-Flynn, Nanashi will kill Krishna using Masakado's Blade, and Dagda will have Nanashi sit on the Cosmic Egg's throne. He will then offer Nanashi to sleep and wait for the final battle, where Stephen contacts him in a dream. When he woke up, Dagda will offer him to revive a captive soul from one of Nanashi's partners he freed from the Cosmic Egg as his only partner for the rest of the game. This partner can be Asahi or any of the other six that Nanashi killed before, and will become a mindless extension of him. He will proceed to revive Flynn as well, again as a mindless extension of Dagda and Nanashi.
At the end, Dagda succeeds in his plans, as Nanashi has slain YHVH at long last, albeit at the cost of the lives of his friends and many others. Regardless, he is capable of replacing YHVH, though he passes this ideal to Nanashi, who is human, thus he can always remember the consequences of being corrupted and becoming arrogant. He later disappears after the creation of the new world Nanashi establishes, becoming one with the universe and the Axiom just as he always wanted.
DemiKids Light/Dark Version[edit | edit source]
"A giant of a demon with a hardy appetite. Carries his own pot of rice into battle."
Known as Bounty in the game. He is obtained in Light Version by completing Wartak's 4th quiz.
Brave Frontier[edit | edit source]
Dagda is a dark element unit obtained through a twitter event leading up to the Shin Megami Tensei IV Final x Brave Frontier event. He was released to all players after surpassing the goal of 4,000 tweets.
Stats[edit | edit source]
Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse[edit | edit source]
- Only fought when Nanashi rejects Dagda's offer.
- If Nanashi makes decisions against his human partners but rejects Dagda's offer, he will delete all of his Demons in stock and force him to fight alone.
Persona 2: Innocent Sin[edit | edit source]
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment[edit | edit source]
DemiKids Light/Dark Version[edit | edit source]
Devil Children Fire/Ice Book[edit | edit source]
Quotes[edit | edit source]
- "The inescapable truth under all life's lies is that this universe... Is worthless. Gods, demons, humans, buddhas, pretas... I will wipe everything from existence."
- "The humans are being played like chess pieces at the mercy of greater beings. Wake up and smell the chaos, kid. This is the true nature of gods and demons. Human oppression is the only thing that interests them."
- "You've got a lot of work ahead of you, kid... And you're going to learn firsthand just how pathetic gods, demons, and humans are. Remember one thing, my Godslayer: You have no choice but to obey me."
Gallery[edit | edit source]
Trivia[edit | edit source]
- In the 3DS game case for SMT IV Apocalypse, the reverse side of the box art is a full-length image of Dagda and Nanashi together.