I would say that is Messiah, what do you think?
so, you saying Orpheus Telos is the only one that can learn every skill in the game ? if it is then yeah he's really strong. talking about stats, if in P5 can do the same in P3 then that's fine. but in case you want to compare stats from different game, i think you should compare them with default stats. don't use game mechanics to increase their stats, that's not fair. i think if we compare them with canon lore or that persona's backstory it would be fair to compare them. this is just my opinion. what do you think ?
I see what you’re saying about different games and what not.
But in Persona’s case they kept the same stats and stat maxes since P3. As well as keeping the game play similar enough to be compatible. Which is why I think that using stats is a fair enough thing to do.
If we went with the persona’s back story Orpheus is just a bard while Sataneal is, well the Devil. Which to me doesn’t sound like a fair comparison.
Orpheus Telos base stats are 62 across the board.
Sataneal highest base stat is his strength at 63 wit every other stat at or lower then 60.
Orpheus Telos starts at level 90.
Sataneal starts at level 95.
i don't think so. they didn't kept the same "default" stats since P3. they changed it all the time. that's why i don't think compare them with stats is fair. but if we use inherit skills or skill cards is fair because there is a lore behind it and it's stay the same purpose i guess. about persona's backstory, Satanael is the Devil while Orpheus is just the bard right ? you could say Satanael is stronger than Orpheus but Orpheus Telos is truly stands for nothingness, undefined and having limitless possibilities. that's why i think compare them with the backstory is fair if you compare them from different games. if we gets Orpheus Telos and Satanael in the same game, it's safe to say that you can compare them with stats, skills and backstory. that's what i think
btw if you haven't notice, my english is not good i try my best to discussing with you because i think it's fun to share my opinion on the internet. i hope you understand my english lol
Your English is fine. I under stand what your saying.
So let me know if anything I say goes over your head and I can try to phrase it differently.
Both P3 and P5 use Strength, Magic, Endurance Agility, and Luck as the stats for both games.
If PQ2 is like the first PQ they will both likely be in that game. But in PQ Orpheus Telos works very different from how he does in P3.
Orpheus telos my friend ;v
This game consumed my life (⌣̩̩́_⌣̩̩̀)
And I thought I was obsessed :c
What do you think?