Talk:Gouto-Douji

Name Meaning?
Hey guys, I've been blazing through the 3 available Devil Summoner games along with DS1's transcript, but I've been primarily playing the Raidou Kuzunoha Duology, and I plan on expanding our wiki's pathetically short articles.

However, one thing that's always bugged me is Gouto-Douji and his name. Sure, it's an indication of his servant status to the Yatagarasu, and by extension, the capital and country, but for the sake of a possible etymology section, what's the deeper meaning?

Now just a heads up, I'm still learning Japanese, and the following is a pretty amateur attempt at research, but it's all I got. Now by breaking down the individual Kanji of Gouto's name, or title, I've come up with the following short document:

Gouto Douji  ( 業斗童子 )



 Breaking down each Kanji to study, here's the list I've made:

業  (Gou): Usually associated with work/working, but is also associated with Karma and sins.

斗  (To): Commonly associated with the Big Dipper in Chinese and Japanese religion and mythos; most likely symbolizing a guide, also symbolizes one who protects/serves the emperor and country, protection, and longevity.

<span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "MSGothic";mso-ascii-font-family:Helvetica;mso-hansi-font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:"MSGothic"">童 <span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:107%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman""> (Dou): Can mean boy, boy servant, slave, and servant.

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "MSGothic";mso-ascii-font-family:Helvetica;mso-hansi-font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:"MSGothic"">子 <span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:107%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman""> (Ji/shi): When used as a suffix, indicates an object which has a subservient or derivative role relative to another object.

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">So from that, using interpetation, I've come up with possible meanings:

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">Karmic Guide Servant to the Boy Servant of the country.

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">Punished Servant Guide to the son of the country.

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">Citations:

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">http://kanjialive.com/214-traditional-kanji-radicals/

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%A5%AD

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%96%97

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%AB%A5

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%AD%90

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"TimesNewRoman"">So with that, I'd like opinions on what I've gathered, and maybe some advice and criticism from anyone that's much more well versed in the language. Does anyone have any ideas? JoeStronger (talk) 21:47, September 3, 2015 (UTC)