Thread:Great Mara/@comment-35180808-20180624220035/@comment-35180808-20180624233338

Hello again, Crok425! Sorry I missed your first comment; it's a bit difficult juggling two conversations at once. But to the most recent question, your response was "no." I'll assume Great Mara agrees and go from there.

You say that if we're not told all that information specifically, then evil Igor\Yaldabaoth isn't the main antagonist anymore, even though he's still technically responsible for everything. This ties back into the case I was making: it's not about who's responsible for what, it's about the experience of the protagonist and the viewers. And for 99% of the game, both of their experience is that Shido is the game's villain.

To further demonstrate, you claimed that without that reveal, Yaldabaoth as a character essentially doesn't even exist. But that means that until said information is revealed, Yaldabaoth also doesn't exist! That means that for 99% of the game, Yaldabaoth doesn't exist as a character, and certainly isn't the antagonist of the story.

Meanwhile, Shido as a character and antagonist always exists. Both the viewers and the protagonist want to bring him down, and view him as the one responsible for said tragedies. Yaldabaoth wasn't meant to replace Shido as the main antagonist; merely to act as a final plot twist to end the game with a bang. Shido is the villain of 99% of the game, which seems more than enough to make him the "main" antagonist of it.

So let me ask you this: how can you say that Yaldabaoth is the main antagonist of Persona 5, when according to you, his character doesn't even exist for 99% of the game?