User talk:Bluerfn

Leave a message for me! Blue. 19:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome, Administrator Blue!
Done! Blue, I look forward to working with you. As I stated before, I can contribute truckfuls of images. That's my forte. You work on yours. We need to get somebody with real knowledge of articles (better than mine, I'm afraid). By the way, have you checked out the VS stuff I put up over on Square Wiki? I'm sure it's not an assumption to believe you were a little excited. Bye. Icysugarspike 20:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I will work on my expertise, making Pages and Templates as needed by the Wiki. We'll prepare for content as we go. As for the VS stuff, much thanks! Them images are pretty hard to come by. What would be more priceless are images of each character in the game, as well as the enemies! But thanks much! Blue. 20:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Vagrant Story Enemies
Vagrant Story Enemies are coming forthwith! Right now, I'm taking some well-earned time off this damn thing. Can you possibly place the Atlus logo I just uploaded somewhere on the Main Page? What do you think? Would that imply that it was an Atlus Wiki? I don't know. Let me know what you think. After all, it was dear Atlus who brought these games to my shores, anyway. I'm from the US. Icysugarspike 20:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool! As for the Atlus logo...well, I couldnt think of any place...YET. My mind's a bit blank, probably need sleep. I'll get back on the wiki once I can return, okay? Blue. 20:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Digital Devil Saga
Good work, Blue. I made a slight change to DDS, just so you know. I believe that when the Japanese title follows the English title, we should put it in italics. I am an administrator over at Capcom Database Wiki, and I've been trying to follow that guideline over there. (I think it's easier on the eyes.) What do you think? I'd like to follow that rule here, too. By the way, I don't know if you like Odin Sphere or not, but Square Enix is releasing it in Europe!!! Hmmmm. They must have drooled when Atlus came out with it, and wished that they had made it. Icysugarspike 14:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's surprising, Square Enix releasing Odin Sphere! It's a great game with great art and music, though i can live without the loading times.
 * I'll have a look at the Capcom Database Wiki. Blue.  14:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I learned a LOT fucking around over at Capcom. The link is here:. There were only two or three users (apparently, it's a recent Wiki) so I figured if I messed up, I wouldn't offend too many people. When I felt confident enough, I applied for sysop rights. There were NO administrators there! One thing led to another, and now I'm one (which means I have to do all the dirty work, as well as my own contribs).

Yeah, isn't it interesting that SE plopped the money down fast for European distrib. rights, when a lot of RPG fans like you and me plopped their money down to buy it in the States and elsewhere? Icysugarspike 15:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, SE is trying to make more money to finance with their FinalFantasy XIII franchise, I think =P
 * I saw the Capcom Database, and REALLY you were busy there! Surely you have your hands full seeing that Capcom is quite a large franchise too.
 * I have some suggestions regarding the Categorization of the articles here. I wrote them in my userpage. Blue. 15:05, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Image Copyrights
Blue, I have a bit of a dilemma, and I need your help (when time provides, of course...you are one busy man). Last night, I had a talk with my wife on the subject of image copyrights. She knows I work on Capcom Database, and I explained that I uploaded quite a few images on the Wiki. She then pointed out (she is much savvier than I when it comes to the law) that Capcom, were someone from the company to find out about high-resolution images being uploaded without a source provided, could turn around and file a lawsuit without any warning to take them down. She scared the shit out of me with this information, and I promptly took everything down. This was agonizing for me to do. Oh well. What I need to know from you (before I proceed to upload images on this Wiki) is to make sure everything is legal first. Can you help? Icysugarspike 14:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Heya!
Glad to see you helping out on this wiki too Blue! (-: -PanSola 18:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, yea, just lending a hand. [^_^]/ 19:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Blue. Just drop me a note on your plans here (if any). Just curious as to what you'd like to do. Icysugarspike 19:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hardcore Gaming
Oh, yeah. Hardcore Gaming is a great site! I've known about it for a couple of years. If you're interested in game series that are a bit on the obscure side, bookmark it and always check back. I've gotten stuff about MegaTen from there, and also some long-forgotten Capcom stuff for the Capcom Wiki I'm working on. I'd love to know where the guy gets his info. Do you think we could contact him somehow, and tell him what we're trying to do?

As for the logo, no ideas yet. Somebody's bound to come up with something nice sooner or later. We don't want to be hasty. Icysugarspike 22:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Important Message!
Blue, right now over at dokuganryu.com, there are hundreds of scans from Kazuma Kaneko's artworks from Shin Megami Tensei posted! I'm ecstatic. These books are hard to come by and pricey, yet are an invaluable resource, especially for us. They are only posted for about a week or so, so I'm gonna spend some of the time I have today getting these images for the Wiki. I can't stress enough how rare this stuff is! Check it out if you have the time, and any interest at all in the design of these games. Icysugarspike 13:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Aegis vs. Aigis
Hey, since you changed Aegis that I typed on Orpheus to Aigis, I just wanted to let you know that it wasn't a typo. Aegis is known as Aegis in the Japanese version, but it's written in kana as アイギス causing it to be pronounced more like Aigis. So for whatever reason, Aegis became Aigis in English, despite the fact that an Aegis is a shield, or protective piece of female clothes that Athena wore/carried, and Aigis is...well, a mistranslation. Since Icy has been absent, me and Akkilimar have been moving more towards the Japanese names, especially in the case of Megami Ibunroku Persona. The manual of style reflects this as well. For user-friendly-ness Mark redirects to his Japanese name, and I just added pages so that Aigis will end up at Aegis. Sorry for being so long winded, and I doubly apologize if it sounds like I'm lecturing you, since that's not really my intentions. SeventhEvening 20:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, here's the first part: the article about Aegis. If you look at the name of the article, and it's topic, you see that Aegis is spelled アイギス.　So the logic, "the general kana for the English word Aegis is イージス" doesn't work. The page does say that イージス is an alternate spelling of Aegis, but then if you click the disambiguation you see that Aegis from Persona 3 is listed. Then, further, at Aegis: The First Mission, Aegis is officially romanticized as AEGIS. There are further sources, like press releases, on that page. Under any normal circumstance, I would agree that we should use English names over Japanese ones, but Megami Ibunroku Persona's localization was extremely, extremely terrible. This is where 90% of the Japanese over English mindset is. Atlus themselves started using the Japanese names in Persona 2, but kept the first names to avoid confusing anyone too bad, so I think Atlus regrets the poor localization as well.  I mean, other than the stuff from the first Persona, the only changes are Chiaki Tachibana instead of Chiaki Hayasaka, Hito-Shura as opposed to Demi-Fiend, and Aegis over Aigis.  Which none of those are horrible localizations or anything, it's just consistency. The only other conflict is Persona 3 over Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3. Atlus officially released Persona 3 with Shin Megami Tensei on the front, but it's not a Shin Megami Tensei game.  I think that was simply marketing, but it creates confusion.  For example, why would Shin Megami Tensei Persona 3 or Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army not be listed under the Shin Megami Tensei (Series)?  I think that anyone who would use a Megami Tensei Wiki kind of expects a lot of Japanese names given that nearly all the games are set in Japan and feature mostly ethnically Japanese characters. I don't think it's a big deal that the article use Japanese names, since there are only the few cases that it conflicts.  Additionally, with redirect pages, I think it allows us to have the best of both worlds. Sorry for hitting you with this wall of text, but I just wanted to make sure you saw where I'm coming from.  And that I'm not pulling Aegis/Aigis out of my ass. Personally, I don't think we need to be as uptight about things as wikipedia has become. Even though we're an English language wiki, we're writing about a Japanese game series, with Japanese characters, who speak Japanese, that features about three dozen games that have no English release. I think it's silly to favor bad localization over "canon". Especially if say, for example, regardless of how unlikely this sounds, Shin Megami Tensei was remade again and localized with new names.  We'd have to move dozens, if not hundreds of articles and create piles of redirect pages as opposed to if we stick with the Japanese and just make redirects.  While this isn't a likely scenario for that game, Persona 4 could have some Aegis/Aigis type goofyness in it. SeventhEvening 16:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just realized we both used the same source against each other. Just in case, check this press release, and look at the title screen of the game. That's about as in-game as you can get. I don't mean to beat you with sources, but I debated in Highschool and I don't like leaving any doubt. SeventhEvening 16:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, I'm glad everything is smooth now. I actually am a little concerned about the possibility of there being some confusion about the issue, so I might put a note on the discussion page for Aegis and I might put some more bits about why we're going this route in the Manual of style in order to inform future users. Aegis is a bit sticky, since there are a lot of people who have been introduced to MegaTen through Persona 3, but I think the name is close enough that it's understood, and if they go to Aegis things will be cleared up. I might add a localization section to Aegis like I did Mark. SeventhEvening 18:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know if this fact was mentioned in this discussion, but Aigis is the correct Greek pronunciation of the word Aegis, as in the mythological shield, and probably also the way Japanese say Aegis in general, because Japanese favor Greek pronunciations for Greek words, go figure. --Yksehtniycul 15:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Blue Blue, Where Are You?
Hey Blue, it's icy. I started working on Square Wiki again, taking a little break from exhaustive work on Capcom. Just wanted to know what you thought about if I altered certain pages to be more like the Capcom Wiki. Some of the info boxes are just plain ugly, and/or with no information in them, anyway. icy 03:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

About your message
I tried to make them send me my password to the account e-mail however the problem is that I forgot which of my multiple e-mails used, so yeah... I decided it was easiers to just made another account whit a similar name and signature --I need ur Halp! 15:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Wrong Delete
Bluer the Template I marked for delete was not the SMTN one it was the SMNT one --I need ur Halp! 16:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Ops I got Myself confused. Never Mind --I need ur Halp! 16:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Main Page Overhaul request
I was thinking perhaps the main page could have a slight overhaul/refurbish? Admitted I don't visit the main page more often than the RC section, but still (also the fact that I know too little about codings and such). Also stressing out to say that if this is too much time-wasting, ignore this message. -- N/A 05:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree on refurbishing. It was one of the projects I have instore for the Megaten wiki. I had wanted it to carry the P4 theme, but suggestions came and the decision is to make it reflect the Velvet Room. However, even with a design in mind I'm a bit clueless on what should be on the Main Page. If there are any ideas on what the Main Page should contain, you could write them up in the Talk:Main Page. Bluer 05:42, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Death Arcana/ The Death Arcana
Since the Tarot motifs uses 'The' before the Tarot's name, (i.e: Le Mat, Le Monde, L'Arcane Sans Nom), should arcana articles like Death Arcana, Fool Arcana, etc,etc be moved to "The Death Arcana", "The Fool Arcana" etc, etc? EDIT: Also, the 'Arcana(s)' are called Tarot instead of Arcana in P2. Thoughts? -- N/A 10:54, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If it's in-game like that, sure. Bluer 15:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Category: Stat Templates, Skill tables
I know I'm definitely asking too much, but can you take a look at the Codings of the Stats template? As the media wiki changed the texts to white, several templates kinda...blend with their colors too well (Template: P3stats, Template: P4stats). I took the lazy way and tweaked Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturnes several template (template: SMTNstats, template: Magatama), making the texts black. But I found out SMT, SMT II's stats template (template:SMTstats, template:SMT2stats) works better with white texts, making the overall thing pretty inconsistent. Thoughts, helps would be greatly appreciated. -- N/A 03:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I anticipated a lot of changes with the infobox and navi templates too. They'll be changed.&mdash; BLUER   一番 .   09:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, uhh, the templates looks different for each game because I was aiming for the old school look for the games that are lesser on graphics.... uh... so... yeah... &mdash; BLUER   一番 .   13:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

IRC Cloak
Hi, I know its a whoooole bunch later, but did you still want a wikia/* cloak on irc for the nick Bluerfn ? --Uberfuzzy 00:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I dun hang around IRC anymore. No thanks.  BLUER   一番   07:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Regarding front page content
Can we update the featured article and/or artwork every week? If so, I wouldn't mind changing it regularly. Cj iwakura 21:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)cjiwakura
 * We thought about it, and it would be great if we had a lot of things to feature. But in my opinion, I don't think we have that many featured article/media to be featured in one week. A month would give us ample time to create a featured article or upload any good media/artwork. Thank you for your concern, though.  BLUER   一番   06:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Message from One Lost in the Velvet Room
Hi, Blue. Thanks for dropping me a line. Things are okay. A few problems with my eldest son (he's three), but nothing major. This has kind of limited my work on wikis in general, though. Have you checked in to Square Wiki lately? I seem to remember uploading some stuff there a while ago. How are you? icy 23:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Bluer!
We could use your bureaucratic experience at the Kingdom Hearts Wiki if you have a moment or two to spare...we need some new mods. Also, thank you for reminding me I should really start playing IMAGINE again at some point... ^_^ BebopKate 02:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied in the user talk page there.  BLUER   一番   08:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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RE: April Concerns
As I stated both here (via my profile page) and in the Community Portal page in Megaten Wiki, I'll be among those (hopefully I'm not the only one) on the lookout for copypasta leeches both here and there as I work. Hope there aren't any objections about that. I have a tendency of being ubiquitous and OC, two virtues(?) that might help... somehow... MomoChan 11:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You're not alone in this (looking out for copypasta leeches, that is), although I have to admit that I am not that adept at detecting copypasta'd articles - but in any case I will do extensive paraphrasing when I can to the best of my knowledge of the subject and capabilities. As for Megaten Wiki, I do not (and care not) how it works, as I already maintain this wiki and wish for it to become a separate entity - separate meaning this wiki should maintain its own distinctive style and standard. As for the virtues... well, as long as it helps shape and maintain the wiki it's fine. Sorry if I sound edgy/angry/mean/pessimist/fussy/evil; I'm actually typing this with a cheery feeling ^^; *smilesmile*  BLUER   一番   11:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, you don't seem to come off like that to me in the least. I don't get angry vibes from posts unless I see expletives. For the most part, I'm inclined to think that people around here are diplomatic until proven otherwise. MomoChan 13:39, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Stats
I've been getting them from the Mechanics/Persona Database FAQ at GameFAQs.com.

Haven't e-mailed him yet, but I will this weekend before I post those Power stats anywhere else. --Carlo Santos 04:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank You
I thank you for the suggestion. Oh well, let's see if it works. Whitechocolate 05:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Blue
Welcome back! I kept a bit of an eye on things while you were away, as per your request. Didn't notice anything that reeked of vandalism. I like the new Main Page. icy 16:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for watching over the wiki while I'm gone ^^  BLUER   一番   03:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Good job! I don't get to as often as I'd like, but once in a while, I peruse some stuff over here. Your "manual of style" was of interest to me. The latest revision, in particular, I found myself whole-heartedly agreeing with. There are just too many snobby "purists" out there, aren't there? If this is an English wiki, the English must come first, with all due respect to the place of the series' origins (Japan). I am as intrigued by the Land of the Rising Sun as the next guy, but really, let's be serious. We have to remember that this wiki is not just "for people who already know about SMT", but for "people who don't". Otherwise, how could they use the search engine correctly (all redirects aside), if the character's name is the Japanese one? It kind of...oh, I don't know, defeats the purpose of this site. icy 13:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply over this issue, icy. We need input since I feel I've reached an impasse with another user here who's very adamant in keeping things as "accurate" as possible.  BLUER   一番   13:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Blue! Sorry to hear that you are so frustrated. Believe me, I sympathize. I began to see the growing popularity of SMT (thanks to college-age fanboys and fangirls) due to the release of Persona 3, which took the whole series into the mainstream spotlight. I know that Capcom is pretty damn mainstream itself, but at least nobody wants to fight with me over there. Here's a suggestion that you've probably already thought of. If you're tired of arguing with the purists and still want to work on wikis, head back over to Square wiki. There's nobody there, the last time I checked. I, too, choose not to get frustrated trying to appease the purists. It only makes one angry, and the same thing happens at every high-traffic wiki! If you're looking for my support in the matter, I've basically washed my hands of the wiki that I founded. I'm not into petty bickering, and if this wiki isn't fun anymore, then it's work and nothing else. Contact me. We have an understanding, I think, and I admire your dedication. If you decide to give Square another go, I'd like to help, time permitting. I'm curious to see what you're going to do next. icy 14:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Biography/Profile
May I ask whether are we settling under the name 'Profile' or 'Biography' under the, uhh, Biography section (the section that explains the characters' role in the game(s))? We use 'Profile' in addressing the Location Articles' "role-in-game" section, while 'Biography' in character/demon articles. Personally I'd prefer changing all of the section's name into 'Profile', since...using 'Biography' in the Arcana articles seems pretty odd. Hope I'm not sounding too vague. -- N/A 05:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's use Profile from now on. Biography's limited to people.  BLUER   一番   11:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

You're Welcome
It was no problem editing the soundtrack. I just saw that many of the titles were still in Japanese and I figured that our readers who aren't necessarily fluent (including me, hehe) would get confused as to what track was what.--T3h Waffleman 00:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Very good to see concern for our English readers in here ^^  BLUER   一番   03:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

That Beldel Pic
I don't know where you found it, but it is totally awesome, thanks for finding it. --GenoWhirl24 20:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Np. Found it in a French website; those French are really resourceful on media and stuff. No wonder they're the art capital thahah.  BLUER   一番   03:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

What is Beldel? --yksehtniycul--12.213.80.52 10:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * A "Bel Kami" in Devil Survivor. Details unknown.  BLUER   一番   10:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see... "Bel-Del". Funny naming the devils that way. Are there any other different prefixes used in the game?? I remember someone saying that was a graphic ("Bel-Del") ripped/reused from a Devil Summoner game. But maybe not. I can see how someone would think so however. The style is so similar. That is definitely Baldr/Balder (based on the Balder spelling obviously) ...I see Atlus USA has not released their game yet. It might be revealing to see how they handle that for their audience.


 * PS: I definitely think you guys should consider using the original (Japanese) games as the primary source. As in Japanese titles first, then Atlus USA titles and whatever. You will really never be able to truly organize things until you do so. Just saying, let people post however, then clean up after them. --yksehtniycul--12.213.80.56 11:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, one more week before its release. I'd love to see more info about the game once the English version comes out.
 * Which brings me to point out that I've decided this wiki works by "English when there is, Japanese when there isn't". Unfortunately for us all, our source tends to be the English releases. For example, the "King Abaddon" Case Files article was only created two days after the release of the English version - I know it may be a weak example, but an example nonetheless. Also, despite Persona already released two months ago in Japan, we still haven't got much detail on the remake.
 * I don't see organization as a problem. It's the lack of content that disappoints me.  BLUER   一番   12:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's amazing the internet "world wide web" ever gets built. All I meant by "organized" is consistancy. Plus it must be weird to document a Japanese release, then have it written over once Atlus USA has it's say. Better to have an organization system before content. Btw, as a long time Megaten fan scene vet, I'm shocked the way this wiki has taken off. Don't be so down--yksehtniycul--12.213.80.56 13:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm quoting from much of my experience working in another wiki concerning Final Fantasy, a JRPG series localized for the English audience: it's not weird at all documenting a Japanese release and then overwriting the English release info. Over there, we're constantly mixing English info with Japanese info into the articles, and it's very rare, I do believe to the point of non-existant, that someone bursts in and suddenly asked us to put the Japanese release as the primary source. We quote English releases for the most part, as everyone understands that most people didn't play the Japanese releases. When there's info of the Japanese release, its incorporated into the article without any qualms whatsoever.
 * I'd say nothing further about this JP/EN issue - the only way anyone can convince me to put the Japanese release as primary source is anyone who'd actually complete comprehensive, informative wiki articles on elements of Japanese-exclusive MegaTen titles, or anyone who'd actually create comprehensive, informative articles anywhere within the wiki. *snort*   BLUER   一番   14:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

THANKS
Hey! Its me, VishnuSan (Or Edward. What you prefer). Thaks about the images and sorry about Cybele. But, i'm giving you a new Cybele's image If you don't like I can edit agin and publish
 * Thank you. But the original image is being used in the database. I placed back the original image, but rest assured the one you give me is still there, in case you or I'd want to view it later, Edward ^^.  BLUER   一番   14:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

A plush of Izanagi & Jiraiya & The Rise figurine?
Ware did you find that? I really like to know, so please tell me. My sister make toys & she to know more about them.

Sorry to pick on you...
Have you ever thought about using http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Index?

In other words? How does everyone working on this wiki engage one another in a round circle fashion? Or do you just talk to one another on an individual basis?

I would just like to alert your contributors to our mirroring of the wiki at http://www.digitaldevildb.com/wiki/Pixie in order to get an idea of how your user community feels about this.

We have not officially launched the wiki yet. Here is the official landing page so far: http://www.digitaldevildb.com/partners/megami-tensei-wiki/

PS: I also added mobile support to our website this morning, though the wiki pages are special so it will be a little while before they're working. Nevertheless thought you all might like to know your content could soon be accessible on most mobile phones and PDAs. --yksehtniycul--12.213.80.54 15:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was actually encouraging the use of the discussion page of the http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Megami_Tensei_Wiki:Community_Portal.
 * But I guess I should constructing the structures for a Forumspace.
 * By the by perhaps you would be alerted that Wikia had updated its licensing as per here.  BLUER   一番   15:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this is the same change as Wikipedia made not long ago. Shouldn't effect our arrangements here if so. I will try to stir something up on the portal discussion page then. I guess if your users aren't hip enough to keep an eye on it, they will just be left out of the process... --yksehtniycul--12.213.80.54 16:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, go right ahead. In the meantime, I'll be putting up notices on the site about the current affairs. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   16:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

SMT: DS Images
It's gonna be a pain updating all those images, ahaha...But I'm kinda mad at Devil Survivor. HOW THE F. Did Beelzebub end like Belzaboul? And I miss how they split the names (Beld-Del is now Beldr, ;-;) But anyways. Hope we can work to make the wiki better.--GenoWhirl24 14:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Apology Not Necessary
You were obviously hot under the collar from being flamed a lot. I don't blame you at all. You were an early supporter of this site, and I still respect that. How can I "be mad at" you? You are still far more gentle and polite to me than most of what I've encountered. It's important not to let your ego get in the way, or you'll forget that this is all (supposed to be) done for fun and out of love for the material. I'll try to read that comment...was it on the forum, did you say?...when I get the chance. My wife is trying to get me to clean the bird cage. Gotta go. icy 18:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Some News...
Hmmm, this "POV" thing... I guess it's worth a shot. I'm just not sure, but anything that will offer a compromise sounds good to me. I just worry that it might spark more arguments. I try to keep out of these things as much as possible, since (like I'm supposed to) I see both sides and viewpoints. I gave Yksehtniycul administrator rights based solely off the fairness of his decisions, which I find to be a rare trait these days. You, as well, seem to possess this quality, so it saddened me to see you "attacked". I know a lot of the things you said were in retaliation. Even the gentlest human being out there can take so much criticism...

You'd think we were all getting paid here sometimes, what with the severity of the debates going on. Let's not forget...that we're not. This is just for fun. Keep the enjoyment level high.

Anyhow, it may please you to know that about a month ago I picked up "Kazuma Kaneko Pandaemonium", a two-book set I have long wanted. Scans are forthcoming, I'm just not sure when. icy 00:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * ^The original D3 website had a section devoted to the first of these books. I copied it over to the new website database here


 * It would make sense to have an accompanying page for the 2nd book if you would share your scan catalogue once you've finished up!!--Yksehtniycul 18:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry too bother you
Sorry too bother you, but I thought you were the best person too ask. Are there any forums around that center around the Shin Megami Tensei series? I searched in Google a while ago and came up with nothing, and I'd like somewhere were I can talk about Persona 4 and stuff... D: D'you know any forums?
 * Probably your best bet is game specific gamefaqs or the atlus website forums if you'd like to progress thru your game. If you want to be active in the wider online community, http://www.digitaldevildb.com/bbs/ is the most viable fan forum, but it can be very inactive these days. Another forum is Megaten Haven but a pretty bad reputation, and was not readable for guests for the longest time (but seems to be now) ...it is generally shunned by all but it's regular haunts these days, but the company there will probably entertain any new posters as long as they last. --Yksehtniycul 23:53, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Do you know how?
Do you know how "Newcomers and old users, please read the Manual of Style before starting or resuming your edits! " is added to the top of every page? I dunno if it's a big deal or not, but I'd like to try to make a link to the digitaldevildb.com page that corresponds to the page being viewed appear on each page (well just content pages preferably) ...there are generally good reasons to do this, but the main reason I thought of this was Google likes to see links to your content on other websites, and we're having a hard time getting our wiki pages to show up in our site search results. So I think this could be a good way to get Google to index our wiki mirror. Wikia is a higher ranked site than digitaldevildb.com (by far) so it would really make a difference I think, wherever the links can be fit in. --Yksehtniycul 23:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

^Page Notice Extension
The only sane way to go about doing this seems to be a commonly used extension...

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageNotice

It doesn't seem to be setup for this website. Perhaps there is a way to add it or request it be added??--Yksehtniycul 17:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

PS: I prepared a link that looks like this...

 View digitaldevildb.com version 

^It will have floated to the right ==>>

Having header/footer functionality would be helpful in general however I believe. It's worth noticing that everything outside the page body is pretty much dynamically loaded by Javascript. So I'm not sure if Google index's that content correctly or not. Though you'd think these days, Javascript is so ubiquitous google would have to. --Yksehtniycul 17:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

KHWiki Admins
Recently, the active admins (Me and BebopKate) have been dealt with limited computer time and can't always watch/take care of the wiki. We've decided to promote 2 current Mods to Admin and a couple active contributors to Mod. Admins: Ultima and GS. Mods: Kryten and Yer mom. Thanks, kupo ;) -<font color="#4682B4">Azul (talk ・contribs) 00:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Backup
Since this wiki seems to be in dire straights. Do you care if I request a dump? I'd really like to get a dump anyway before you go changing it around too radically how ever you plan to. It's nothing personal, but I know building a wiki alone can be a lonely thankless affair. Even if you claim to keep it up until you die, shit can come up. Never hurts to be safe. --Yksehtniycul 00:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

PS: I'm perfectly qualified to host/move the wiki off wikia.com. If there would be any benefit to that. It would mean complete control over the wiki. The option to setup our own ads, and even the ability to integrate sophisticated databases into the wiki which would save a ton of manual labor. --Yksehtniycul 00:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

So this is where you ran off to?
XD I thought you fell off the face of the earth, Hecko went out with a bang, you a poof! XD Sorry, no offence, hey feel free to come by the #FFWiki anytime you want, I'm sure the newbies would like to see someone that can show them the ropes.NeoBahamut 22:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I had an idea.
Okay basically, a few days ago I got bored and made a Persona based forum. Problem is, there are no members... So! I was wondering if you could put a note on the main page. Not blatant advertising, I mean. But something like "Please discuss things on the forums, and not ask/talk about them on the talk page" then have a link to the forum? It would save people some hassle on here of having to go onto the discussion page, then on the Recent Changes having like a string of like fifty messages, say "Talk:Kanji Tatsumi has been edited by:". It's totally up to you, but I was just saying. That I could get more members for the forum, and less people would be having full-blown discussions on the Discussion page. xDD Takoto  01:24, September 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * I didn't know you already had forums. My bad.

Festivity
because I might be very busy for the next week Selamat Hari Raya Puasa (yang akan datang). -- N/A 09:45, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much ^^ Happy holidays. I won't be logging for a couple of weeks as well due to the holidays. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   07:05, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Hey!
I am new here. I would greatly appreciate if you would help me out a bit. I am a ardent fan of The Megaten Series. I thank you for your time if you respond.

Hey! again
i would like to start contributing with the site. I wuold love some tips.

So how have things been?
I would like to have my account Yksehtniycul unbanned so I can add odd stuff to the wiki at my leisure if everything is still alive and well. I have lots of evidence of you being a down right shitty/undeniably "unethical" person, however I really don't personally care that much. I made backup of the old wiki but I don't have time or reason at the moment to keep it synchronized. SeventhEvening fell thru in administrating an alternate branch. I put a lot of work into the wiki so I will always feel a sense of ownership, and if the opportunity arises to branch it in the future I just might do that. But my commitment to Megaten is on the down slide and I only have a passing interest, so I can't see that very likely coming about, but you never know... I suppose I would be more interested in Megaten if others were.

Anyway, for now I returned the wiki pages over at digitaldevildb.com over to scraping this wiki until someone freaks out. In which case I might have more reason in keeping a branch in sync / might look into synchronizing pages on the fly. I plan on having indexing/search working at digitaldevildb.com again soon, so it's important. --12.213.80.54 19:41, December 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * FYI: Still banned... --72.173.160.50 18:55, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * I did however start receiving Weekly Change Logs in my registered email's inbox, so I had assumed my account had been unbanned already??--67.54.192.53 20:29, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Mastema
I took the official "spelling" of Mastema(マンセマット) from the official website. The ッ character is not a "t" character. I do not know anything about Japanese, and I might be missing something, but according to Wiktionary, it's a "tsu": I wouldn't trust an online translator for this; we need someone who knows some Japanese. I'll admit I could be wrong, but as far as I can tell, it's a "tsu". --<font color="#336666">Fallen_Reality  T/ C 21:11, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * That small "tsu" is a Sokuon. It "doubles" the consonant after it.
 * And I know my Japanese, having taken it for a year and going to Japan at least twice. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   21:34, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was not aware of that. I can only do what I can with a Wiktionary search! Sorry for changing it once. The Wikionary article needs to have that clarified! It's good to have someone with experience in Japanese for Wikis, specifically for this kind of situation. --<font color="#336666">Fallen_Reality  T/ C 03:20, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Strange Journey Color Scheme
I'm using a temporary color scheme for the Strange Journey demons. I can change it at any time if there's another scheme you'd rather use. You can preview the color scheme at Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Demons. I should be finished with the first round of Strange Journey updates by Friday.-Jtchort
 * Awesome! And I'm okay with the color scheme chosen. I'll check up on the edits once I'm not busy. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   03:26, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool cool.-Jtchort

Ciao Blue!
Hello Blue. Azul speaking >:} I would like to resign as admin of the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. I've thought long and hard about it and have decided since I have no interest in the Kingdom Hearts series or in editing at the KHWiki and I don't see myself picking up another game from the series, in my mind, I see it best that I do this. I serve no purpose there other than to be a picture on the staff page. So, seeing that the newly crowned admins have yet to recieve their rights, I was wondering if you could remove my rights as you add theirs, just so that it's all done in one fell swoop and also since I'm not going to have access to the internet in the coming weeks so I don't know when it'll be that I'll be back online. Thanks friend, take care. -<font color="#4682B4">Azul (talk・contribs) 03:53, April 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for being so understanding Blue. I do hope to one day return to the wiki and be a part of it, but that's not in my agenda for right now. Stammi bene. -<font color="#4682B4">Azul (talk・contribs) 02:46, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

A Project
Hey dude.

Sounds like your the head honcho here.

I'm working on a special project. Can you come over to my talk page?

TemhotaTech the 3rd

Thanks!
Thankyou for helping out with the tables, much appreciated!--Pinkgriffon 16:09, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad to help. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   16:13, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Templates
On another note however:

1) Do I have your permission to try and change the stat templates and other templates to match the Blue used on the Strange Journey Demons page later?

2) Is there a tutorial on how to make a template similar to the Nocturne and Persona stat templates? My tinkering on a stats template for Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon has come to nil. Great Mara 16:14, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you illustrate what the Blue is?
 * We don't have a tutorial. But I can check it out for you. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   16:22, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * The blue is the kind used here, Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Demons and is color pallette #200470. The templates all use a green like the colors for the original SMT. Great Mara 16:30, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would be all right. I'll check the stats template. <font face="Trebuchet MS"> BLUER   一番   16:34, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re:chat
Done ^^ -Azul81677 02:08, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

A predicament
With the Frost Order page for the section on Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon, I'm assuming Long would be Seiryu since I haven't gotten that far into the second game yet, however Basilisk appears in the game, but it's model resembles the Cockatrice from DDS more than the Basilisk. Great Mara 06:25, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also a sorting problem with Irei clan, it's Irei in Soul Hackers, Entity in Nocturne, and Geist in Strange Journey. Should we just try to make one big page or what should we do? Great Mara 08:35, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I still can't decide what to do about the Basilisk. It's confusing. @_@ Also, about chronology, do ports or re-releases of a game make it the newest iteration in a series. For instance, in Strange Journey Baihu is referred to by it's Chinese name, but in P3P, released more recently but a port, it retains the current article name of Byakko. In fact, in Strange Journey most of the Ssu Ling retain their Chinese name (although I swear one of them is missing, I think Suzaku). Great Mara 00:41, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Userpage
Hi Bluer, did you see my reply about the accidentally created user page? I replied to your question on my main account userpage (Pinkgriffon) but I wasn't sure whether you had seen my reply or not. If the pages attached to the user page have to be removed, i've got backups of them if they need to be resubmitted to the wiki.--Pinkgriffon 10:12, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to trouble you again, but the page is still showing when I click on the link to it... Only the user talk seems to have been deleted.--Pinkgriffon 18:00, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to ask again, but could the whole user be deleted at all? It's probably not going to be used and will just be sitting there taking up space. I'm also not so keen on having my IP address in full view on the wiki. I hope that's ok.--Pinkgriffon 20:08, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry again, but the user itself hasn't been deleted, it's still there when I click on the link. Is there a way to remove it off the wiki/server entirely? I really don't want it to be there, since my IP's still on a public profile that anyone can access. I hope it's not too much to ask again...and i'm sorry for repeatedly bothering you about this. --Pinkgriffon 08:53, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Q
Hi Bluer, hey, I wanna ask you something if that's okay with you, here is my question: Why did when I make the Template:Q. the last " mark's always entered one time ahead ?, and How should I turned it back one space so that it would fit nicely to the article ? Grandia III Yuuki - August 11, 2010, 1:38 (UTC)

i need help on P3P
hi i was wondering i need help on Persona 3 Portable i am trying to fuse Saki Mitama witch Persona di i need to fuse it Naruto the hedgehog 21:20, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * You should probably post this in the forums. And if you're not looking for any skill in particular, give me a few minutes and I may have something for you. Great Mara 22:46, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Out of the list of Personas I have right now you can get Saki Mitama from Emperor Take-Mikazuchi + Empress Leanan Sidhe, Justice Virtue + Priestess Sarasvati, Justice Virtue + Priestess Ganga, Magician Sati + Priestess Sarasvati, Magician Sati + Priestess Ganga, Priestess Sarasvati + Magician Orobas, Priestess Sarasvati + Empress Leanan Sidhe, Empress Leanan Sidhe + Priestess Ganga. Great Mara 22:56, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Blue!
Just dropping a line to say hi. Nice to see you're still here taking care of the place. Good luck! - icy 15:05, October 7, 2010 (UTC)